Sorry this is late @__@ Have been packing and cleaning a lot in preparation for the move.
I have several pages sketched, but have fallen behind with the inking.
RE: Almightyra... if she gets the chance, she'll take it, yeah haha XD
RE: Hokova... you can kill someone with scissors if you stab in the right place. hope gail ducks
RE: godmoderncommander... poor bb panicked
RE: Calocor... haha pretty much
RE: Cocytus... can still crack it over someone's melon XD
RE: Spartanc45... The internet has done terrible things to me if I realized that must be a pokemon reference @_@
RE: dye88... hi there :D
RE: comicgirl... He and Jas are about equally strong; Max's real wild card is his regenerative abilities. He's a decent fighter, but Marisol would likely give Jasper more trouble than Max would.
RE: sun tzu... I figured the further this story got, the more it might hit home for some that Gail's the villain, with all that entails. Mostly right now I find it interesting that some readers didn't mind Gail treating Amber and company like this before, but now that they know Amber and the others a little better, it's different. Gail has her moments of what she considers "nobility", but she's still the selfish villain.
obligatory scream inserted, thanks for that, ok now we move on to the *quick go check that out now!* moments or am i mistaken also WOO homo jasper, that would be rather funny
Edit: to be honest the evil is what makes a story good, without a solid villain this would be dull as shite "ooh look at me I a hero! Look at me fly and save kittens and people lalalalalala!" BORING AS SHITE. You want a good character give them a dark side. Just look at my avatar for example. deadpool is a good example of anti-hero slash villain. Doesn't really care who he hurts, does what he likes and enjoys chimichangas, that sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than "oh no! A cat is stuck in a tree! Someone save it!" hero shows up and saves it. On the other hand! Villain shows up and sets tree on fire with cat in it. "there now if it wants to live all it has to do is jump down hahahahaha!" get the idea folks?
The proportions on the cigarette are getting a lot better! (As a smoker for 24 years who hasn't had one in 2, I notice these things!) (^_^)
re: the villain discussion, Amber's prejudices still bother me more than Gail's non-selflessness, and Gail's flashes of charm, loyalty, and compassion outweigh Amber's kind of self-righteous and shallow heroics!
Yeah, I know, I'm a little bit of a bitch sometimes! =(^_^)=
Your mileage may vary, but I think "non-selflessness" is a pretty damn generous way to refer to Gail's willingness to hurt or even kill good people just so she can improve her standing in the criminal underworld.
And I don't really see Amber's attempts to protect perfect strangers at the risk of her own life as "shallow" heroics.
Re: villain discussion
Amber's heroics is still not more than "on-the-way" to becoming a paragon i feel. I'd need to read through the comic again to say for certain, but her motivation up until this last encounter strikes me more as feeling justified in beating on Gail since they're already opposed and she's been told she's a hero.
As for Gail's villain-ness, looking out for number one is a perfectly viable tactic, and taking the reins of the criminal underworld is a good chance to take charge of a life she's never had good control over. At least so far she's never displayed any active interest in hurting innocent bystanders. Amber and her friends can hardly be seen as innocent in her eyes due to the whole being nasty bitches towards her for no particularily good reason. If someone makes your life hell you don't really care how their karma balances out on a grand scale, you just want to see them hurt so they'll understand how much they hurt you... sadly that never really works.
Amber's been protecting people. The mugging she stopped a few pages ago? The woman she rescued from a murderous husband/boyfriend a while back? That's not being self-righteous. That's being a hero.
As for Gail's villainy: "Looking out for number one" IS what makes a lot of people bad guys, especially when they're willing to stomp on other people on the way. She's indicated a general disregard for the safety of bystanders (http://whenshewasbad.smackjeeves.com/comics/775150/14-6/). She's tried to flat-out MURDER Amber&co. And I don't think she's getting all those guns for some poor rebels fighting against a Third World dictatorship.
Gail is a fucking evil bitch who needs to go behind bars for the sake of everyone else's safety.
Re: Sun Tzu: Recall that Amber had to be talked into being a hero. I also still doubt that it's genuine selflessness that motivates her, as opposed to 'look at me! I'm a good person because I did all these good things!' sentiments. Good deeds are worthless without good intentions, and even the best of intentions are nothing without good deeds. The two go hand-in-hand. You also seem to be cherrypicking incidents to suit your views, rather than looking at the situation as a whole. Yes, she did help those people, but that does not erase her prejudices or her self-righteous demeanor toward Gail in particular.
In short, I wouldn't really consider either of them to be good people at this point. I choose Gail's understandable honest selfishness over Amber's pretend heroics any day, particularly since the former does, as Grace pointed out, have compassion, something which cannot be honestly said for Amber.
2. I'm not saying Gail's a good person, but i can't really see her as outright evil. She does bad things, because there's no benefit to her in doing good things. She doesn't care about the bystanders, but don't actively move against them either.
Bottom of the line, unless it's against the people who she hates for a good reason, she's not malicous.
Amber on the flipside isn't pure of heart, she does some good things but in no way has she started acting the superhero yet. She's doing what she does because she's being told it's right more than because she knows it's right.
Both of these situations are changing as we speak of course, (especially Amber's it seems) and it'll be fun to see where it ends up.
SunTzu and Northern Druid
I'm with Tzu on this one. Remember, Amber may not be completely selfless or virtuous or any of those other things only a Mary Sue is, but she's the one out there risking her life to help people. In the end, her motives for doing so matter little, she is saving people while Gail tries to hurt them. Yes, Gail's sympathetic, yes she had a hard life, but that does not excuse her of her crimes! She's a ruthless sociopath who you lot probably wouldn't be rooting for if she wasn't the protagonist. She's like Zim from Invader Zim, yeah, you like 'em, but they are still bad people (or aliens in Zim's case) that need to be put away or put down.
Being an orphan does not excuse arson, bank robbery, theft, mugging or attempted murder. Hell, JASPER is a better person than Gail because he at least admits that he's a bastard!
Bottom line is, Gail's not Evil with the big E. She's far from good, and a villain, sure, but she's not irredemably Evil. She's not in it to hurt others, she's in it to better her own position. The reason to root for her isn't because she's sympathetic, but because she's trying to end up somewhere better than the crappy position she's been in up until now. She's doing something to improve her own life, even if it's a horribad villainy way of doing it.
I just still think Amber needs to grow a bit before she'll be a real hero, though she's certainly on the way as seen recently. Whereas Gail has been a full-fledged villain for a while now.
In the end though i'm rooting for Gail's HeelFaceTurn, but time will tell where this goes.